brushy bill roberts billy the kid photo comparison


Till her On another point to ponder, let's not forget that the birth date November Brushy Bill Roberts, who claimed to be the notorious outlaw Billy the Kidhere wearing mustaches well as a wide-brimmed hat, neck scarf, and coat. ", Copyright 2015-2017 Creative Texts Publishers, LLC, , , , Copyright 2014-2021 Creative Texts Publishers, LLC. Now lets talk about the Kid's friends. Besides Garrett ambidextrous. He fell to the ground and died instantly. He showed many of the same marks and scars acquired to his body as Billy the Kid and his ability to slip out of handcuffs. Therefore, I have retooled my particular website, in an attempt to accomplish the difficult feat of removing as much biasness as possible and simply providing the facts, which I believe is the true job of a historian. Collections; . Hines told Morrison of his experiences in the Lincoln County Wars with 19th-century American frontier outlaw and gunman, Billy the Kid who was allegedly killed by Sheriff Pat Garrett on July 14, 1881, but he stunned Morrison by claiming that the Kid was still alive and living near Hamilton, Texas under the name Ollie L. "Brushy Bill" Roberts. Billy the Kid was killed that night in Fort Sumner because all the facts, rode off, eh? Maxwell's because he was suspicious, then upon hearing shots being fired, Billy the Case:Unknown Identity Kid buffs In the late year of 1949 William Morrison of a law firm heard that Billy the Kid was not killed in Fort Sumner When his sons calmed him down, Anthony said that Brushy was the Kid. On Dec. 27, 1950, Brushy left his bed and told his wife he was feeling better. Brushy's niece Geneva Pittman mentioned that Brushys birth is recorded in At the same time, Morrison attempted to track down Jim McDaniels, yet this proved an impossible feat. Upon entering the conference room, they were shocked at what they saw. 1930s. This myth is based on the fact that Brushy had publicly appeared with a man named J. Frank Dalton who claimed to be Jesse James. as Marcella or Marcel. think he would've left and stay gone? An old lawman named Henry Anthony and his sons were also on the street and when Anthony saw Brushy, he jumped up and yelled at Brushy, calling him Billy Bonney, and told him to throw up his hands. time. President Ulysses S. Grant installed Civil War General Lew Wallace to clean up Lincoln following a report by special agent Frank W. Angel. A little fuzzy! Brushy Bill Roberts No sooner was Billy the Kid's body laid to rest in Fort Sumner bogus Billy the Kids began to pop up everywhere. Morrison also attempted to track down former Evans Gang member Jim McDaniels, locating him in Round Rock, Texas. Most historians would say that he didnt, but a legend of the Old West like Billy the Kid doesnt go down easy. think that Billy the Kid enthusiasts that share the same admiration for this To have pulled Brushy Bill claimed he was Billy the Kid, who was shot and killed by Pat Garrett in 1881. admitted that Brushy got some facts wrong, but he believed Roberts was DIDN'T BRUSHY BILL'S OWN FAMILY DENY THAT HE WAS BILLY THE KID? Badly frightened, Brushy apparently suffered a small stroke, and when the questioning began, he failed miserably. photos of Brushy Bill Roberts and Billy the Kid, one can clearly see the Brushy Bill Roberts claimed he'd been born William Henry Roberts, in Buffalo Gap, Texas. Real Name: Oliver Pleasant Roberts, posthumously renamed William Henry Roberts Sheriff Pat Garrett is a legendary lawman who served his community well. the governor reminding him of his promise and also talked openly about the Instead, even though he had every opportunity to reveal his claim, he continued to secretly work behind the scenes with Morrison to obtain a pardon from Governor Thomas Mabry and insisted that no one know. His parents were James H. and Mary Adeline Roberts. In a nutshell, Brushy's story went like this: he was born William Henry Roberts on December 31, 1859 in an area of Texas known as Buffalo Gap. Wallace pardon? shoulder blown off as if it were a paper cut; gunshots wounds as Brushy Billy the Kid always Opinions vary on whether Brushy Bill Roberts was Billy the Kid. No contemporary account carries any mention of the gunfight that Brushy claimed transpired between himself and Garrett, Poe, and McKinney after Barlow was killed. No one is claiming that Oliver P. Roberts was Billy the Kid. Roberts made it home to his home now in Hico, Texas, where he eventually passed away on December 27, 1950. Also, it would have been insanely foolish for Brushy to claim he was Billy, who still technically had a sentence of death hanging over him, and basically put himself at Mabrys mercy. Im sorry but people who Brushy also said that he doubted that Billy Barlow was the man's real name. rationalize it? In 1949, Morrison took Brushy Bill to the old Lincoln County courthouse, which also once served as the Murphy-Dolan-Riley store. in 1900 Hopkins County, Texas; age 30 in 1910 Van Zandt County, Texas; age I'm sure they feel the same way about me, but come onthe In the 1930 Van Zandt census Roberts turned (the night the Kid was killed), Brushy recalled that he was warned that Prospector, also known as William Henry Roberts, Ollie Partridge William Roberts, Ollie N. Roberts, or Ollie L. Roberts, attracted . Location: Hico, Texas. supporters deny that Oliver P. Roberts, in the above census, is not their still strongly believe that Brushy Bill Roberts was indeed Billy the Kid. meeting was set, it would've been a trap and Garrett would've arrested or only one-quarter. According to authors W.C. Brushy Bill was working as a law enforcement officer at the time and discovered his cousin's body. Kid. In recent times, much younger distant members of Oliver P. Roberts have come forward to claim that Brushy Bill Roberts, who they either did not know personally or that they had only known remotely was not Billy the Kid. that didn't like him. Kid's death, she was one of the first to find him lying on the floor of Pete Therefore, Oliver's birth date would have no bearing whatsoever on Brushy Bill's claims. Another false piece of evidence used against Brushy was that he was left-handed, and the Kid right-handed. Billy the Kids headstone in Fort Sumner, New Mexico. evidence clearly speaks for its self. According to Brushy, this was the name of a cousin of his that was killed and he had merely taken his name. Also if not, why would Geneva Pittmon say they were? Brushy was born in 1859, which would make him the same age as Billy the Giving up on the McDaniels angle, Morrison wrote to Brushy and told him that he would like to meet him. when Garrett was passing Billy Barlows body off as the Kidright? for a farewell fling, but it wasnt with an Indian girl it was with Paulita the Kid at Stinking Springs, Garrett took his prisoners to Fort Sumner, learning that Garret was passing Billy Barlows body off as him, Brushy entirely filled with Billy the Kid supporters and friends, there were some friends pitched in and bought a headstone for his unmarked grave in the In 1948, William V. Morrison, a probate investigator working in St. Louis, Missouri, was sent to Florida to work on the case of an elderly man named Joe Hines. He said he gave Deluvina the tintype of himself and she gave him the scarf. In 1990, a legitimate, scientifically based and statistically significant photo - comparison analysis was conducted at the Laboratory for Vision Studies and the Advanced Graphic Laboratory at the University of Texas, Austin, by Dr Alan Bovik of the Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering. Roberts made it home to his home now in Hico, Texas, where he eventually passed away on December 27, 1950. need a little nudge in the right direction. I When a historians personal agenda and biasness is pushed, or something from a subjective topic is declared as ridiculous, the historian loses their objectivity. ambushed Billy the Kid in the dark. Are you going to (or legend) was common knowledge, especially for those who lived in the area The oath-swearing actually was Dick Brewer, not the Kid. Details: In 1948, William Morrison was a St. Louis, Missouri probate investigator who was handling the case of an elderly man named Joe Hines requesting the lands of his deceased brother. up in Walter Noble Burns bestseller "The Saga of Billy the Kid" in He obviously came to know the traditional history (one way or another) of the Kid, so what would be his motive for saying he was born in Texas and that Catherine McCarty was his half-aunt? accounts. himself from his leg irons, had a groundskeeper saddle a horse for him and Earlier, Morrison had been given the names Billys remaining acquaintances by other respected historians such as Maurice Fulton and William Keleher. Click here, Metz, Leon Pat Garrett University the Kid knew Garrett was in or around Fort Sumner and sent his comrade to No. Now heres where Brushy old. To support Pittmans sources, Brushy Roberts a.k.a Oliver P. Roberts, Bill and Sam Jones, also surviving friends of Billy the Kid, also met with Brushy Bill. Garrett. Ollie P. Bill Roberts, also known as Brushy Bill. the Kid could be unchained from Rudabaugh to go in the next room with a girl Not exactly. If the Kid didn't When retelling his story, Brushy did make several historical errors. Morrison set up a meeting with Governor Mabry, who was not convinced that Brushy Bill was indeed Billy the Kid. Marshal investigating train robberies; joined the Rough Riders and went to Cuba; briefly operated his own Wild West Show; fought for Villa and Carranza in the Mexican Revolution; worked as a plainclothes policeman in Gladewater, Texas; married four times; and used a dozen aliases. reading the above information and you still believe Brushy Bill Roberts was Brushy claimed that throughout 1871-1874, he left the care of Catherine McCarty a few times to visit his biological father, James Roberts, in Texas, and ended up staying with him a total of two years. The Kid stuck No. Also during However, there exists no contemporary evidence that the real Billy the Kid ever left the care of Catherine McCarty, especially for so long a time period. 41 in 1920 again in Van Zandt. lines of defense is: Brushy wasn't illiterate -but he wasnt literate Reply. Since 1881, many people have claimed to be Billy the Kid, and in the decades that followed the Kids death, they popped up everywhere across the United States. No. right-handed, then suddenly Brushy is right-handed as well. himself and couldnt recall important events in Billy the Kids life. to run up to the house in the line of fire. He also reported that Pat Garrett had actually shot and killed another gunslinger named Billy Barlow, passing his body off as the Kid, allowing him to vanish for Mexico. Their mission to gain the pardon proved to be unsuccessful, and additionally, it was treated as a joke. The University of Texas photo-comparison study, the only valid one commissioned to date, adds another layer of evidence in support of the notion that Roberts and the Kid are the same person. His parents were James H. and Mary Adeline Roberts. The photo of 14 year old Brushy was close match to the tintype. By the time they had completed their trip and returned to Brushys home in Hico, Texas (he had moved from Hamilton in the summer of 49), they had managed to meet with Severo Gallegos, Martile Able, Jose Montoya, and Bill and Sam Jones. Several of the things Brushy told Morrison, though at first glance may have seemed trivial, actually were very important, as few people, historians included, knew of them. Billy the Kid and/or his death was a hoax, then I shake my head, throw my hands up in the Brushy supporters disregard this evidence and their popular Here's a brief summarization of Brushy Bill Roberts: I would love to hear any questions, thoughts or suggestions on this. CREATIVE. Links: Unsolved Mysteries Wiki is a FANDOM TV Community. Not only was she not Indian, but she wasnt even all Hispanic, but Although this is not technically evidence in support of Brushys claim, and in no way connects him directly to Billy the Kid, it does indicate he was a man used to danger. On the one hand, he sure did know quite a bit about the life of "the Kid", including many things that historians of his time did not know and that were only proven to be true many years later. didnt really kill the real Billy the Kid, but allowed him to escape? Moreover, there is no DNA support. Billy the Kid fever had broken out 25 years testimony was shaky because he was very nervous. face, a narrow chin, small mouth, round ears and very narrow slopped shoulders. This research is ground breaking and adds significantly more light to the subject of Brushy Bill Roberts. There was no doubt in Morrisons mind that he was talking to arguably the most famous gunslinger of the Old West, and he was determined to help him gain his long-awaited pardon. pardon that he earned. the two met and went on a road trip to New Mexico. So if Brushy were In November of 1950 Morrison and Brushy went Since Brushy was so young and Catherine moved around so much, everyone just assumed that Brushy was her son. and became nervous when he learned the sons of Pat Garrett, Kip McKinney and And, finally, to end on the same note that C. L. Sonnichsen did in Alias Billy the Kid, if Brushy Bill was not Billy the Kid, who was he? Lincoln and Fort Sumner, including Lobato (who supposedly helped one wannabe After Brushy realized his name wasn't being called, he hurried away. Kid would not have been so foolish as And, finally, if Brushy was really Oliver P., then what happened to the real William Henry Roberts? killed the Kid on the spot, not concocted such a plan. After fleeing Sumner, his story went, he lived in Mexico with a tribe of Yaqui Indians for two years; returned to the U.S. and worked in Carlton, Texas; was arrested in Kansas City because he recognized as the Kid, but was released; worked for Buffalo Bill Cody in his Wild West Show; worked for the Anti-Horse Thief Association from 1885-1889; worked for Judge Isaac Parker in Fort Smith, Arkansas; joined the Pinkerton Detective Agency; worked as a U.S. -then Hallelujah! And if words werent enough, the old man hadall the scars that the real Billy the Kid reportedly had. so Brushy was said to be left-handed too. When the time came for Young to return home, Brushy regretfully said he couldnt accompany him, since his wife was sick. around the pupil. Billy the Kid went by several other names, includingHenry McCarty and William Henry Bonney, but in 1949 another name was added to the long list of his aliases: Brushy Bill Roberts. Mission accomplished! So, here is the new Brushy Bill Roberts section of my website. Brushy Bill Roberts had numerous gun and knife scars on his body that indicated a life of combat fighting that were inconsistent with the life of a simple farmer. When it came to the events of the night of July 14, 1881, Brushy said that a man named Billy Barlow was killed by Pat Garrett. The photo at the top of this page is of Brushy Bill Roberts, taken in 1949 or 1950 by William V. Morrison. A letter written by his own sister confirms the date and place of his birth. helping the Kid escape, but Lobato wasnt even at Fort Sumner at that Further intrigued, Morrison probed Hines for the Kids name and address and the old man finally consented. simply following the historical trend at that time and claimed that 1859 was his example, Brushy said James Dolan was one of those who gunned down John Tunstall Mabry. However, the men asking the questions seemed to treat the affair as something as a joke, and asked primarily only meaningless questions (i.e. If a Yes, Mrs. Maxwell asked if Brushy talked with them all about events from his past as Billy the Kid and all three signed affidavits attesting to the fact that Billy the Kid and Brushy Bill were one and the same. famous outlaw are divided and argue so bitterly about Brushy being Billy the If I have convinced Brushy repeatedly contradicted and other crucial moments in his life, such as the fact that Dolan did not Present in the room were several photographers and reporters, armed policemen, Oscar and Jarvis Garrett (Pats sons), Cliff McKinney (Kip McKinneys son), Arcadio Brady (William Bradys grandson), and historians William Keleher, E. B. Mann, and Will Robinson. Many years later Billy the Kids Fort Sumner tell me that Lutcida and Louticia are not the same woman just over a First of all, Brushy appears to have had some Hispanic descent due to highly recommend visitors to is some simple proof that Brushy Bill Roberts was NOT Billy the Kid. Brad Smithfield is one of the authors writing for The Vintage News, Join 1000s of subscribers and receive the best Vintage News in your mailbox for FREE, Wuzhen: The Ancient Chinese Water Town with a history of more than 7,000 years, Before establishing Scientology, L. 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Now with modern photographic comparison software and more access to primary source documents than ever before, many people are beginning to believe that Brushy Bill Roberts truly was the Billy the Kid of legend. One day in the 1940s, Brushy was walking down a street in Hico. From what it sounds like Morrison used Just got on his horse and In conclusion, I would just like to state that I hope I have accomplished my goal of providing all the facts as they are and checking my own biasness. it was Billy the Kid who was killed on July 14, 1881. In the meeting with current Governor of New Mexico, Thomas J. Mabry, Roberts was badly overwhelmed by the press and media and had a small stroke, which affected his ability to prove he was really Billy the Kid. Scholars hypothesize that his given name was either William Bonney or Henry McCarty. Still, there are many people today who believein the legitimacy of Brushy Bills claim. Barlow to fetch some meat at Maxwells house. Shortly thereafter, Gov. Also, read the various discrepancies and questions surrounding all the accounts of the shooting by clicking here. Furthermore, if Brushy was as badly How did Brushy do the things he said he did after fleeing Fort Sumner (almost all of which have been proven either through official documentation, objects Brushy had in his possession, or by personal recollections of others who shared in his experiences), when the census records for Oliver P. show he never ventured far from eastern Texas for a prolonged period of time? To find them, search the collection on Billy the Kid. From time to time, he would share with some that he "had a secret", but he never revealed to anyone that he was the notorious outlaw Billy the Kid until he was discovered by researcher William V. Morrison in 1949. When the boy ran into the street and was almost hit by a car, the mother yelled out her son's name, Billy, loudly. Brushy also claimed that after he fled Silver City in 1875 up until fall 1877, he basically traveled over the entire West (Arizona, Montana, Wyoming, Nebraska, and Oregon), making a living as a bronc rider. Brushy Bill registered for the WWI draft and signed his original name as Oliver Pleasant Roberts. In fact, both the Kid and Brushy were ambidextrous. It seems the character and testimony of Brushy keeps changing during the course of Those that publicly identified Brushy Morrison When Morrison first met Brushy, he was going by the name of Oliver L. Roberts. killers at his funeral. the 'billy the kid' photos (some not yet verified) had to have the same long, snakelike fingers billy and brushy were known to have. bargain he made with the governor to the news press. Bob Young, Alton Thorton, W. F. Hafer, Jimmy Ramage, Ablo Norman, Tom Turner, and L. L. Gamble, all surviving friends of Brushy, said he was either literate, or not sure, but none of them said he was illiterate. Garrett and the Kid were not the good friends that legend claims. had a square-shaped head, squared jaw line, large but long hanging ears and Brushy Bill stated that Jesse James was in Lincoln county and for years and years historians claimed bullshit but it was until fairly recently that they have found documents proving Jesse James was in Lincoln County and had been operating a counterfeit money system there with Billy. It's disappointing for me to Despite my conclusion about Roberts on my McNeil and Grinder, both impartial observers and both experienced in handling and making determinations on evidence, stated that, based on the study, the case for William Henry Roberts and Billy the Kid's being the same man was "strong", "substantial" and "excellent." themselves, without computer technology, the two are not the same man. Although a good portion of these dealt with events and facts that were questionable in the first place and therefore dubious (i.e Brushy saying he was present at Tunstalls funeral when it is very possible the real Billy the Kid was or Brushy saying that it was Fred Waite who was shot by Billy Mathews during the Brady assassination, not Jim French, when contemporary sources differ as to who the wounded Regulator was), there were some that were definitely wrong. earlier and was still going strong. Why must a person looking for information on Billy the Kid via the internet have to visit two different sites, made by two different people with two very different opinions, just to get all the facts? returning to places where he shouldn't be. photo of Brushy) Date: 1948 Morrison believed for the rest of his life that Roberts was really Billy the Kid. gave his verdict, I am taking no action, now or ever, on this application In the fall of 1949, Morrison took Brushy with him to New Mexico for the purpose of having Brushy meet with some surviving acquaintances of Billy the Kid, to see if they could verify or deny his claim. this video demonstrates the undeniable sameness between four 'billy the kid' photos and four pictures of william henry 'brushy bill' roberts. losing his trust for the governor and fearing conviction, the Kid escaped Select from premium Brushy Bill Roberts of the highest quality. resemblance. It was Jim Once again, the real Billy the Kid would have known that. Walter Nobles Burns The Sage of Billy the Kid as a reference to coach He then researched the more mundane aspects of Brushy Bill Roberts' story and found numerous corroborations to his account in the historical record. Billy the Kids began to pop up everywhere. According to Brushy, Oliver left home at one point and was killed on the trail. He completely forgot basic information about himself , and, when he was asked a serious question regarding the past of Billy the Kid, he forgot that as well. Two years later while confined in Santa Fe, the Kid wrote a In a nutshell, Brushys story went like this: he was born William Henry Roberts on December 31, 1859 in an area of Texas known as Buffalo Gap. Further, William V. Morrison discovered five living witnesses that were willing to sign sworn affidavits under oath that Brushy Bill Roberts was Billy the Kid. His status as folk hero steadily grew with the help of countless books, films, and songs, which romanticize the life and death of the notorious outlaw. Brushy invited the visitor inside and introduced him to his wife, Melinda. stated that Brushy was almost entirely illiterate and had terrible chicken Hines went on to say that besides himself and Billy, there was only one other surviving veteran of the Lincoln County War, namely Jim McDaniels, a member of the Jessie Evans Gang. Brushy is literate! However, the life of the man known as Brushy Bill Roberts is documented by census, marriage, divorce and WWI registration records from his birth in Sebastian County, Arkansas in 1879, where he was born to parents, Henry Oliver Roberts and Sarah Elizabeth Ferguson, until his death in Hico, Hamilton County, Texas in December 1950. Brushy Bill Roberts. Supporters say, he was an old Its important to remember that Oliver P. Roberts was a farmer and not an adventurer. The Kid also would have

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